Will Polls change Labour tactics on WA senate vote?

The senate vote recount in WA was a complete debacle and Labour are trying to have the original vote reinstated. One week ago that would have seemed to be the best option, but now the polls indicate that a new Senate election in WA might just be enough to bring down the Abbott Government if Abbott sticks to his threats of a new Federal election if the senate refuses to pass legislation removing carbon pricing.

It is a long shot but with the dissatisfaction of Abbott coming from all sectors of the community Labour might just get into a position in the Senate to force Abbott to put up or shut up.

A new Senate election in WA may look like a local event on the surface but it will have significant national outcomes. It could be the difference between carbon pricing or no carbon pricing and another nine months of Abbott or another three years of Abbott. What is needed is to make the push for a new Senate election in WA a national event and to counter moves by MSN to bury the issue. When WA votes for their Senate representatives WA will be voting for the whole of Australia and making your voice heard, no matter where you live in Australia will make a difference.

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How can punishing someone for something they might do be democratic?

Twenty Muslim men having there passports canceled because they might have a ‘Jihadi’ mentality is another step towards a fascist state. It is a principle of democracy that in law a person needs to have broken some law before they can be punished. That can sometimes be dangerous but the alternative is the secret police mentality. ASIO having the power to cancel a person’s passport because they ‘might’ do something has crossed the line separating intelligence gathering and the secret police.

The next step is that if any of us upsets someone in authority we will be targeted by the secret police. They might lose a job that requires a security clearance. No reason required. There are many ways a person’s life can be made difficult with a government like the Abbott government. We have censorship. We have concentration camps and now we have the secret police. It is important that we look after our neighbours in a democracy because if you do nothing when they come for your neighbour it will be too late when they come for you.

Please don’t tell me Australia is a compassionate country

Tony Abbott has limited the number of refugees to be granted permanent protection visas for refugees to 1650 this year. This is retrospective and 33,000 refugees arriving before July first this year will have no hope of settling in Australia.

How can a country like Australia show its face on the world stage when it allows only 1650 refugees a year to stay in Australia for three years before a review of their status? Is Abbott blind to world events’? We already know that refugees from Sri Lanka will be returned to possible torture and worse under Abbott’s ‘Shit Happens’ policy. No wonder Australia stands condemned by the UN for its immigration policies.

Countries and people stand or fall by their actions. The condemnation on many fronts that Australia is earning around the world is justified. This must be the most uncaring racist bigoted developed country in the world. This is just not the country I came to love after arriving as an immigrant many years ago.

From a democracy view Australia is now the Fourth Reich. In a democracy rules must never, never, never be retrospective. We must never disadvantage anyone under the law by changing the rules after the event. It goes further than that. The retrospective changes effect the rules set by a previous government. That is not democracy that is fascism.

All I can say is long live the British monarchy because it is the only thing standing between us and a full on Nazis regime.

My Enemy’s Enemy is my Friend

In a democracy we might end up with a government we don’t like and grumble about it until the next election. That is part of living in a democratic country. Tony Abbott’s actions in the short time he has been Prime Minister has not been democratic and grumbling is not enough for me to vent my dissatisfaction with his performance. It is time to up the protest.

Abbott is most vulnerable overseas where he does not have Murdoch’s cone of silence to hide under. I have sent an email to the Indonesian Embassy to say I do not agree with Abbott’s actions against the Indonesian President. I will send emails to the appropriate government whenever Abbott is trashing Australia overseas. Does anyone else have ideas what can be done to stop this madman totally trashing Australia at home and overseas?

There is a quote attributed to Einstein that says that the world will not be destroyed by bad people, it will be destroyed by those who stand and watch. My protest may well come to nothing but I will not stand and watch while this lovely country is trashed by the likes of Abbott.

Will someone please tell me Abbott is a bad dream?

If I was in any doubt that Australia has a feral bogan for a Prime Minister those doubts are now gone. His overseas performance must be taken as his intentions at home. If he knows and approvals of tapping the mobile phones of the Indonesian President, his wife and top government ministers what does that say for our telephone/internet security once he has given the internet and communications to Rupert Goebbels? Abbott won’t have to tap our phones because his Minister for Public Education and Propaganda will own the phones.

Is the acceptance of ‘Extraordinary measure’ (torture) in Sri Lanka an indication of the methods he is prepared to use against asylum seekers arriving by boat or will there be ‘rendition’ of Sri Lankan asylum seekers back to Sri Lanka for ‘Extraordinary’ treatment? We already have a blackout of boat arrivals and no idea of who has been sent to the ‘offshore’ concentration camps. This is a very dangerous situation. Nameless people shipped off unseen and unrecorded to inaccessible place with no way of checking on their conditions or their well being and now Abbott has given tacit approval for ‘Extraordinary Measures.’ This is how it begins. Refugees now, Australian citizens next? Every time we do not protect the rights of the vulnerable our own rights are eroded. This must not happen in Australia.

Abbott was elected because Rupert Goebbels mobilised the minority bogan underbelly of Australian society. A minority acting as a block does not have to be large to distort democracy and it would be untrue to label Australians as bogan when they are only a small part of our society. Does Abbott even understand why he is Prime Minister? He is Prime Minister because Rupert Goebbels used the same tactics as his predecessor Joseph and used the media to mobilise a relatively small block of the gullible to vote for the Australian Tea Party, which made the return of the Labour government impossible. It is an old tactic but one that still works.

Does Abbott understand that he cannot treat the Indonesian Government like the bogans who were used to elected him? We are now part of Asia and we have a Prime Minister who treats the governments of other counties as if they are uneducated simpletons like his own government. If Abbott continues the way he is going in Asia it will take decades to undo the damage he is doing to Australia. He cannot treat Asia the way he is trying to treat the citizens of Australia. How can this be happening to Australia? It has to be a bad dream.

Why Labour should oppose repealing of carbon pricing

Reply to Tim Dunlop

The Drum http://ab.co/156a2mD

The problem with democracy is that nobody knows what it is. It has not been defined and we need to set the rules of engagement. The idea that is majority rule is ridiculous because nobody can ever claim to be part of a majority. At the best we can be part of the biggest minority, and that is only if we take a very narrow view of minorities, using one determining factor only. A good starting point to determine what a democracy is would be the acceptance that minorities matter because we are all part of a minority. You say in your article “Most talk of a “Mandate” in Australian politics is pure nonsense.” This is true.

If democracy it is to be in any way representative of the vast number of minorities that make up Australia those minorities have information that is accurate. On this point, your argument that Labor (sic) must relent on its opposition to repealing the carbon tax fails because the Australian people have been denied factual information on global warming.

There can be no democracy without truth and on the question of the repealing of the carbon tax labour must oppose it at all costs, if for no other reason than the Abbott policies are based on misinforming the voting public.

Did our Navy leave Refugees to Drown at sea?

I doubt it and I certainly hope not, but it is not surprising that such stories are spreading rapidly around the world.

Refugees often come from countries where the military control the civilian population. They come from countries where the government is silent, where people have no idea what happened to their neighbours who are no longer there. This is what refugees are fleeing from.

Refugees coming by boat to Australia are being met on the high seas by Australian Naval vessels. Those that do make it to Australia disappear. We are told that they are set to PNG or other destinations and they probably are. I say probably are because we do not know. We do not know who has arrived, under what circumstances they arrived or where they have gone. We do not even know if they are allowed to contact their families to say they are alive. They leave Indonesia and disappear into a black hole.

This sounds very much like the conditions the refugees are fleeing in the first place. Is it any wonder that when a refugee boat sinks and the Navy arrives too late to save them the immediate reaction is that we let them drown?

Our Navy letting refugees drown does not have to be true. It only has to be that the silence of the Abbott government makes it inevitable that such stories would become true in the minds of many. As an Australian I have this little niggle that it could be true. Image you are in Afghanistan or Iran. How much stronger would the likelihood of the stories being true be? Abbott has been Prime Minister for 67 days and already Australia has been trashed in the eyes of the world.

Whatever the world may have said about our refugee policy under the Gillard government never accused of letting refugees to die at sea. Nor was the Gillard government ever accused of censorship. How low have we sunk since Abbott won the election? How much lower can we go in three years? Can Australia afford another three years of Abbott? How long will it take to repair the damage when Abbott has gone?

The use of the military to combat refugees must cease. Censorship must cease. There are certain minimum standards that must exist if Australia is to retain any semblance of being a democracy. In 67 days we have sunk considerably below those minimums.

Reply from Malcolm Turnbull on NBN.

As part of the campaign to persuade the coalition government to go ahead with the Labour NBN scheme emails have been sent to Malcolm Turnbull.

Here is the standard reply from Malcolm Turnbull with comments by myself inserted in italics. Before that another issue.

The following quote comes from the coalition NBN policy statement.

“To put further downward on prices, the Coalition will unshackle the competitive telecom market that Labor has tried to stamp out, and reduce the cost of the NBN to prudent levels.”

For this read “give the NBN to Rupert Murdoch.”

This Is Malcolm Turnbull’s letter.

If you wish to contact Malcolm Turnbull his emails address is Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au

MT

Thank you for writing to me about the Coalition’s plan to deliver better broadband to all Australians sooner, cheaper for taxpayers and more affordably for consumers.

YA

Under the coalition scheme the user will have to pay $5000.00 for the final connection. If you add all the $5000.00 together the quoted cost by the coalition becomes just another con.

MT

The Coalition has been very open and transparent about our broadband policy that we took to the election. It is available online here: http://www.liberal.org.au/fast-affordable-sooner-coalitions-plan-better-nbn.

Unlike Labor we do not regard technology as an ideological, or even political, issue. The objective which we should all share is to ensure that all Australians have access to very fast broadband as soon, as cost effectively and as affordably as possible.

YA

But the broadband must be adequate. The coalitions policy says speeds of 25-100 megabits/sec. We are now at web 2.0 and 25 megabits is barely enough. Web 3.0 is just beginning. This is the era of 3D printing where it will be able to order and item on line and you home printer will print it for you. The US military is already trialing war zone 3D printing so they can print equipment at the battlefront and not try to deliver ordinance under difficult conditions. This technology is going to take enormous power and even the labour scheme will need to continuously updated to keep up with Technology.

MT

While fibre optic cable to the home (FTTH) does indeed offer the prospect of the highest possible speeds that has to be weighed up against the cost and time of deployment versus alternative technologies, the service levels offered by alternatives and the value or utility of those service levels to consumers.

YA

With same things, like the NBN must be right or it is no use at all. The Coalition plan is already out of date. An almost good enough scheme is no good at all.

MT

The Labor NBN plan took these factors into account when it decided that 7% of Australia would not get FTTH because of very high cost of deploying it in less populated areas. 

YA

The coalition has no answer to this problemeither. It needs some serious research and the answer will probably not be cheap.

MT

Labor’s mistake was never to undertake a cost benefit analysis of the project let alone weigh up the cost effectiveness of alternative technologies. 

From that initial mistake, Labor has done everything it could to conceal the fact that the project is missing all of its targets – after four years less than 2% of the fibre build has been completed. At this rate Australians will be waiting decades for very fast broadband.

YA

There is no cost benefit in something that doesn’t work. MT knows that the beginning of a project is where the bulk of the work is done with very little sign of progress. The ends brings it all together

MT

But unlike Labor we do not propose simply to make claims about the project. We will ensure that there is conducted an open and transparent audit of the project and a thorough cost benefit analysis.

YA

We saw with the coalition policy costings at the resent election they can never be open and transparent about anything.

MT

We will make sure that all Australians know how much it will really take in dollars and time to complete the project on the current design and then how much can be saved by making changes to it including on the lines set out in our policy. We will also ensure there is a clear disclosure of what alternative technologies mean in terms of service levels and relate them to both current and projected demand.

I know there are some people who say we should build FTTH regardless of the cost. It is important that Australians understand what those costs really are and what the alternatives are.

YA

The alternative is a disaster if it isn’t done properly. Yes it is will be expensive, but we must avoid another Collins Submarine debacle.

MT

Every public infrastructure project has to be carefully and honestly analysed so that governments, and citizens, can weigh up the costs and benefits. 

This information is vital for the public to be fully informed and our redesign of the project will reflect this information.

The NBN debate is not over but the Coalition will ensure that from now on it is at least fully informed. 

YA

I agree with MT that the debate is not over.

Regards,

Malcolm Turnbull

Not even sworn in and the already cracks are appearing.

A major part of Abbott’s rhetoric leading up to the Federal election was to that he would turn back the boats. In a rebuke that has not gone unnoticed by the rest of the world Indonesian has told Abbott, in a most emphatic manner that they, not Australia would determine Indonesia’s foreign policy.

Abbott was told this very politely during the election campaign but he ignored it. Now Indonesia has told Australia that it is not accepting refugee back once they have left Indonesian waters and Abbott has to get used to the idea. As a result that policy now lies in tatters.

It may well have been that this policy was never a serious policy in the first place. It could have been just part of the propaganda war raged against Labour. But whatever the reason for the policy today’s announcement of a trip to Indonesia by Abbott before the end of the month smacks of panic.

Abbott has done another swift change in policy change. He is now no longer going to stop the boats, he just will not tell us when they arrive. This policy has potential for great evil. Refugees arriving in Australia are just going to disappear. This is a policy that many dictators have used. Inconvenient people just disappear. This must never happen in Australia.Australia’s treatment of refuges is already seen as disgusting at home and abroad and we must not add to this by making them dissapear.

At present, all asylum seekers arriving by boat are automatically resettled in Papua New Guinea or the tiny Pacific island state of Nauru in an offshore processing model condemned by the UN, and described by the former prime minister of Australia, Malcolm Fraser, as shifting humans to gulags in the third world.

Things looks likely to get worse under the new Abbott government. Scott Morrison, the next immigration minister, indicated that the public may not even be informed when a boat carrying asylum seekers attempts arrival in Australia.

What is mostly lacking in reporting around asylum issues in Australia are the voices of asylum seekers themselves – this despite some forensic reporting that runs against the tide. Any attempt at rebalancing the narrative, however bold and dangerous, should be lauded. It’s time to move on from questions over whether their decision was ethically sound, and to think about what this reporting might do for public debate.

(Oliver Laughland. The Guardian on line. New York. Australian edition. 9 September 2013)

Add to this Indonesia’s indignant dismissal of the Abbott policy of buying indonesian fishing boats. Not even sworn in and Abbott has already upset Indonesia and drawn world wide attention to our treatment of refugees. Indonesia fishermen show just how ridiculous the boat buy back scheme is.

If I sold my boat for a lot of money maybe I would even have enough money to build two boats. We are fishermen,” he shrugs, “If they buy a boat, we can easily build another one.”

(Kate Lamb. The Guadian on line. New York, Australian edition. 6 September 2013)

Abbotts ethics must be called into question after is Chief of Staff gets off a drunk driving charge after the incoming Attorney General gives a character reference. Is the Attorney General interfering with the legal system on behave of mates going to be a feature of this government?

We now have a deputy leader of the Nationals, Barnaby Joyce who, on Q and A, said that the answer to climate change was to wear less clothing. God help Australia when global warming becomes too obvious to ignore. This sort of attitude shows the lack of depth and understanding by the incoming government of the real issues facing the world.

Barnaby Joyce is also starring in the beginnings of another disagreement with Indonesia over Indonesian investment in cattle properties in Australia. He has come out against it foot in mouth as only Barnaby can when there is no indication that Indonesia wants to invest in Australian cattle properties. With fools like this within Abbott is likely to have a difficult time keeping it all together when he has members of the government who mouth off about problems that do not exist.

Abbott was elected with the relentless help of the Murdoch press appealing to the underbelly of Australia with lies, misrepresentation and Goebbels’ style propaganda. The govern that has been elected reflects those ideals. Murdoch may have elected the government but Abbott holding it together is already looking shaky.

There is something happening now that brings some hope of breaking Murdoch’s strangleholds on Australian media and politics. Australia, and its politics’ are now prominent in world affairs with the help of such media outlets as the New York Guardian and the two reporters who arrived by boat at Christmas Island on a refugee boat. This incident, and the rebukes from Indonesia show how much attention we are getting.

This prominence in the world media is not of a favourably nature. Maybe the world media can help Australia rid itself of the Murdoch domination of MSM and Australia can have a real election based on real issues and policies.

Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. Joseph Goebbels

This is a comment I received from zwetschgen after my blog on Murdoch and the Fourth Reich. It is an excellent addition to the conversation so I have included it in my blog with permission from zwetschgen.

“On his Australian social experiment/political manipulation, Rupert Murdoch has already tweeted, “other nations to follow in time” – perhaps he’s has been reading Joseph Goebbels.

“To attract people, to win over people to that which I have realized as being true, that is called propaganda. In the beginning there is the understanding, this understanding uses propaganda as a tool to find those men, that shall turn understanding into politics. Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin (Canberra?), and when I speak in Bayreuth (Western Sydney?), I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall (the Party Room). That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths. Those are found in other circumstances, I find them when thinking at my desk, but not in the meeting hall.”

***Speech by Joseph Goebbels 9 January 1928 to an audience of party members at the “Hochschule für Politik”, a series of training talks for Nazi party members in Berlin.
(bracketed suggestions are mine)
original quote taken from, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels”

 

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